Robin Hood: Men in Tights

Janet:
Film School. Slacker contains adult
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Ian:
Hello and welcome to Film School Slacker, the podcast where I go through my ever-growing watch list of movies. And with me is my friend Megan.

Meghan:
That's me. And

Ian:
I'm Ian. You are Ian. I am. And this week we we're looking at one that I know. It's weird that I haven't seen actually, because I've seen a lot of the other stuff. Actually, no, I actually haven't seen as many Mel Brooks movies as it's Robin Hood Men in Tights, by the way.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
And I've not seen, I've only seen Young Frankenstein and Space Balls. I don't think I've seen anything else he's done.

Meghan:
Really?

Ian:
Yeah.

Meghan:
No Blazing Saddles. No. No Silent movie. No. Interesting.

Ian:
Okay. Now that you've listed those, now I have to see if they're on the list. We haven't done points in a while. That's true. Let's look here.

Meghan:
Oh, Aaron brought up a movie.

Ian:
Are we going to give him points?

Meghan:
I can't remember what It's,

Ian:
Well, yeah, we'll start talking about the movie and I'll,

Meghan:
Yeah. So, Robinhood Men in Tights from 1993, rated PG 13, one hour 44 minutes starring Carrie Ellis, Richard Lewis, Roger Reese, Amy Yasbeck, mark Blankfield, Dave Chappelle, among others, directed by Mel Brooks, written by JD Shapiro, story screenplay by JD Shapiro, Evan Chandler, and Mel Brooks. Nice. Can we just talk about how delightful Mel Brooks is as a human?

Ian:
I agree. I agree. Oh, so you get two points because Blazing Saddles and Silent Movie were written on the list. Not on

Meghan:
The list.

Ian:
Dang. Did he do the Naked Gun? No.

Meghan:
No. Who did that? That was someone

Ian:
Else. Okay. It felt like the kind of

Meghan:
Movie he would do. Oh, the Producers? No, not the

Ian:
Musical. No.

Meghan:
Oh, that's so good.

Ian:
Lemme see if that's on the list, then you might get three points, and that might be some sort of record.

Meghan:
Good Lord. But yeah, not the

Ian:
List. Three points for Megan.

Meghan:
I win everything.

Ian:
Amazing.

Meghan:
That's actually not true. I don't win a lot of things. You did Naked Gun. I'm drinking coffee and I

Ian:
Realized I probably shouldn't just drink it directly in the,

Meghan:
Just give the people their mouth sounds. David Zucker.

Ian:
David Zucker.

Meghan:
Oh,

Ian:
That's the guy who did Airplane. Airplane. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's on my, that should be on my list too, because I know that's like Leslie Nielsen and stuff, right? Yep. Yeah, that

Meghan:
Sounds like fun. Yeah. That's Leslie Nielsen. There's Naked Gun. The Naked Gun, two and a half, and then 33 and a third.

Ian:
God Damnit. Yeah. Airplane. The first airplane movie. I have not seen the second one. There's two. I think there's a second one. Yeah.

Meghan:
Oh, gross.

Ian:
Yeah. But the first one is just for me. I don't know. It's probably, I haven't seen it in a long time. It's probably really problematic now. I haven't looked, but

Meghan:
It's, well, it's got OJ Simpson in it.

Ian:
No, it doesn't. It's a cream. Abdul-Jabbar.

Meghan:
Which one?

Ian:
The first airplane movie.

Meghan:
Oh, airplane. I thought we were talking Naked Gun.

Ian:
Sorry. No, no. Does it though?

Meghan:
It does. Oh God.

Ian:
Well, moral of the Story Airplane has Cream. Abdul-Jabbar, who to my knowledge is not problematic.

Meghan:
Yeah, no, he's apparently very nice human.

Ian:
Pretty chill. And that also was Robert Stack and Leslie. Yo, he,

Meghan:
Not a

Ian:
Murderer. Not a murderer. The glove did not fit. It's fine.

Meghan:
Honestly, don't get me started on oj. I will. True. Crime your ass off.

Ian:
Look, we wouldn't be friends if I wasn't okay with that. That's

Meghan:
True. Yeah.

Ian:
Okay. Well, all that being said, I guess the thing is, I know very little about Robinhood Men tights, other than it's Mel Brooks and Carrie Ellis is in it, and Dave Chappelle is in it. I didn't actually know that as well. I don't know. And I just assume it's just a Mel Brooks romp with Robinhood. I don't know anything else.

Meghan:
That's kind of all you need to know, because it kind of follows the same formula as Space Balls. And

Ian:
It's a classic, the

Meghan:
Other parody movie he did,

Ian:
There's

Meghan:
Blazing Saddle,

Ian:
Young Frankenstein, young Franken's, a little

Meghan:
Different. Young. Frank Size is a little different, but it doesn't,

Ian:
Young Franken is my favorite Mel Brooks movie.

Meghan:
It as of right now, it so good. And the musical is fantastic. But yeah, it's definitely follows. It follows the formula. The

Ian:
Formula.

Meghan:
It just kind of a romp through,

Ian:
Right

Meghan:
Through this particular genre that you decided to spoof,

Ian:
Spoof. And then it just does its thing

Meghan:
Just, and it's just delightful.

Ian:
Okay. I love it.

Meghan:
I will say a lot of ies, watch this pre fest, just because it's course they

Ian:
Do. It gets you in the mood.

Meghan:
It gets you in the mood. I am guilty of that as well. Because

Ian:
You're just guilty of being a festy basically.

Meghan:
Yes. Yes, I am. I will.

Ian:
Your secret has been revealed.

Meghan:
I'll plead guilty to that. But yeah, it's fun. I enjoy it. I think you'll find parts of it good. And probably have some stuff to talk about.

Ian:
I'm sure we will. Excellent. Alright. Well let us roll the tape.

Meghan:
Roll the

Ian:
Tape. Call the locksmith. Call the locksmith. Call the locksmith. I mean, it was exactly what I was expecting. So there's that, like we said before. So it's like a Mel Brooks rump through a specific genre.

Meghan:
That's exactly what it

Ian:
Was. It's exactly that. In shock to no one. Brook plays a Rabbi and Yeah, that's the movie. And that's

Meghan:
Kat and Carrie Ellis, swash Buckles buckle, some Swashes and

Ian:
Yeah,

Meghan:
A slightly more sarcastic version of Wesley. And

Ian:
Only slightly though, because Wesley, only Ley is also pretty

Meghan:
Sarcastic.

Ian:
The thing that's tough about covering Mel Brooks movies on this podcast specifically is that I'm not sure what there is to say. You know what I mean? It's not looking for a critique because it kind of defies that

Meghan:
It's a spoof.

Ian:
Yeah, it's a bit

Meghan:
A comedy. It doesn't give a shit what you think.

Ian:
Right. Which is like, oh, okay. Fair enough. And that being said, it's still like I enjoyed the kind of cheapness of the sets. It was a vibe. It was

Meghan:
A lot of plywood.

Ian:
Right. That was

Meghan:
Villager houses.

Ian:
Yep. Painted plywood. The fact that the entire castle facade could just move.

Janet:
Oh yeah.

Ian:
Just, no, it was something that way I think. I'm just going to go into my notes. Let's do it. And I think that'll get us moving the flaming error. So this is multiple times, and I call this out later in my notes multiple times. I'm like, this is a funny bit. And then they call out the bit in dialogue that happened several times throughout the whole thing. So I am just like, I love the Flaming Arrow effect in the opening credits. And then I'm like, the score is kind of fun. And then they're just like, oh. And then they reference the credits in the opening dialogue with the Leave

Meghan:
Us Alone. Mel Brooks, every time they make a Robinhood movie, they burn our village down

Ian:
Down.

Meghan:
This was supposed to be spoofing Robinhood Prince of Thieves, which was a big budget production of Robinhood with Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Rockingham or Nottingham and Kevin Costner as American Robinhood,

Ian:
Because

Meghan:
He couldn't speak with a British accent.

Ian:
That's so funny.

Meghan:
And then Sean Connery is King Richard and others. I don't think I've ever actually seen that one.

Ian:
I don't know. Maybe we should follow. Maybe

Meghan:
I've seen part of it.

Mike:
I'm going to put it on the list because

Meghan:
Why not? We'll be able to point at the bits that were spoofed.

Ian:
Yeah. Prince of Themes, 1991. Oh, that wasn't even that long beforehand.

Meghan:
Right.

Ian:
And then they jump immediately into the 1994. Nice clean wrap. That was fun. Which is, I don't know, there was, I'm going to call this out early. There were two things in this movie, because I generally think it holds up pretty well because it's a farce. It's weird.

Meghan:
It's meant to be out there and kind of

Ian:
Zany. Yeah. I think the two things that I found to be like, okay, let's keep moving, was there was a lot of heavily race-based comedy, and there was a fair bit of heavy fat shaming kind of comedy. Those two things were like, okay. I mean,

Meghan:
That was the part where I was like, okay. Or it can be done with making broil the butt of the fatty, fatty fall down go

Ian:
Boom. Jokes. Jokes. And then you could have left the race stuff kind of understated and it would've worked. But it's not in Mel Brooks' best interest to play anything subtle. So it just is what it is. And it's like anytime there's a chance to call something out, he will. So it is what it is. I don't think it's, I best way to describe this. It's not in bad blood. It's not out of malice. It's

Meghan:
Not punching down. It's just sort of like,

Ian:
It's just sort of like, okay, okay, okay. We it. And then just, there's a lot of, there was some sort of a, you called out one of 'em, but at the beginning there was a fair amount of just like, okay, this is sort of anti Arabic or anti

Meghan:
Well, because when they get to the beach, there's three guys dressed as jockeys on

Ian:
Camels. Camels. And it's like, okay.

Meghan:
And

Ian:
Yeah,

Meghan:
That's a little Grab your collar. Collar and kind.

Ian:
Yeah. Yeah. And just the way that they play out the sequence in the prison, it just feels like it's playing to the lowest denominator of the stereotype, which is the point of the comedy. And again, I don't think that there was doing it with malice.

Meghan:
They could have gone lower.

Ian:
They could have gone lower. And I think that, especially for the time, I think it was probably fairly

Meghan:
Tame,

Ian:
But it was just one of those things where it was like, okay. Yeah. Got it.

Meghan:
Alright, we got it. Okay. Move

Ian:
Along. Yeah, moving along here. I do love the middle fingers through the bars. That was fine. That's pretty good. The tongue effect, were they like the tongue thing? Yeah. That made me uncomfy. It

Meghan:
Was like gum or silly putty or something.

Ian:
And you

Meghan:
Could tell it wasn't a real tongue, but it was still just like, Ooh.

Ian:
Yeah.

Meghan:
I don't think it's supposed to stretch that far.

Ian:
Right, right. Yeah. At the beginning especially, I was really struggling to see Carrie Ellis as anything but Wesley. And the problem with this role is it's so close to being that

Janet:
Role. It's

Ian:
Like literally he starts walking. Does he swim? Does he swim there? And you're like, does he

Meghan:
Swim all the way from Jerusalem to England?

Ian:
England?

Meghan:
I don't think that's possible.

Ian:
And then he gets there and there's just England stuff. The Hollywood letters. Hollywood. Hollywood. The side of Southern California. This is

Meghan:
Totally not the coast of Southern California.

Ian:
He gets back, I'm just like, this is dreaded Pirate Roberts energy.

Meghan:
I saying absolutely.

Ian:
Oh, and obviously it's the other way around in terms of referencing, but the whole thing made me want to watch Gallivant.

Meghan:
Yes.

Ian:
Really bad. I was like, oh, this is Galavan.

Meghan:
It's definitely got Gallivant.

Ian:
Gallivant took the things that I always feel like the Brooks Farce is sort of like the blueprint of all the ways you could go on a farce. And then most other FARs will downplay a lot of things because the Mel Brooks one just up plays everything. And so in terms of Gallivant, a lot of the character interpersonal relationships and stuff are played a lot more like legit. Played a lot more

Meghan:
Straight, little more straight.

Ian:
And then there's lots of bits. A lot of the surrounding peripheral bits in Gallant feel a lot like this movie. So you could tell kind of the areas they kind of grabbed in, or you'd get some group of goofy misfits, like the pirates who, the Lords of the Sea Pirate next to the Sea, stuff like that next to the sea. Yeah, very Mel Brooks. But the relationship between the main characters is a lot more straight. So yeah, it was interesting to watch other things kind of glom onto what Men and Heights did. And My Kingdom for a Horse

Meghan:
That's actually from Richard III Classic, which is

Ian:
Shakespeare Classic

Meghan:
Fancy kingdom for a horse,

Ian:
The castle Facade on Wheels is so fest. I was like, this is the most fest thing I've ever seen in my damn

Meghan:
Life. It's very, very fest. I would not be surprised if it was plywood that they foamed and then carved the foam

Ian:
A hundred percent. That was the vibe I

Meghan:
Got. Not a lot of fest buildings are.

Ian:
It's amazing. And I love it.

Meghan:
Oh yeah.

Ian:
I loved Blind Playboy. That was funny.

Meghan:
Yeah, that's textured.

Ian:
Textured. I don't know why, but Blinken was serving kind of like a Ringo star energy.

Meghan:
I think it's the round

Ian:
Glasses. Glasses and just kind of the beard,

Meghan:
The air and

Ian:
Beard.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
Yeah. Just kind of walking around. It was great.

Meghan:
Also, I want to call out that you can find him in any scene, and he, he's just in it. He is just doing his own thing.

Ian:
That's so funny.

Meghan:
Very committed to the bit when they're at the castle and the fight scene, he's just like, he serves Robin his ale and then just uses his sword to just kind of wave it around and

Ian:
Walk away something completely random, but he's always there. Yeah.

Meghan:
I enjoy watching Blinken in this movie.

Ian:
I think that's one of the other things about Brooks movies in general is the density of stuff is

Meghan:
Actually

Ian:
Really high. Because

Meghan:
I was noticing new stuff that, and I've watched this movie a lot. A

Ian:
Lot, and

Meghan:
I was still noticing new bits or new gags that I've never

Ian:
Seen, never

Meghan:
Noticed.

Ian:
And that's, I think a fun part about this podcast in a way, because when I've watched it, we've done Flip the Script and it's a movie that I've seen, but you haven't, I have noticed new things because I'm looking at it from a totally different lens. That's funny. We were talking and Allie was sitting on the couch with us while we were watching, and she was like, do you think this was on purpose? Something that they did was we're like, yes,

Meghan:
Absolutely.

Ian:
Everything. And that's part of that density is even if you think it looks like a mistake, it's absolutely something that they did on purpose to add to the Just full

Meghan:
Zaniness.

Ian:
Yeah. Cacophony of insanity that is any of these movies and let's see. So a Jew out here? No, a J. It's like classic. A JA Jew in this country.

Meghan:
Yeah. Well, I mean, England famously ran out a lot of the Jews, like York specifically in the 11 hundreds.

Janet:
Oh no.

Meghan:
Clifford's tower. The little, the super steep hill with the little tower on top. The townspeople of York rounded up all the Jews in town, put them in there, and then set the building on fire. So not the best history.

Ian:
A great track record,

Meghan:
Not a great, not a very accepting place.

Ian:
Medieval England. And even modern England, let's be

Meghan:
Honest, and even modern, everywhere.

Ian:
Truly,

Meghan:
We need to stop sucking people.

Ian:
We really do. Can we

Meghan:
Stop?

Ian:
Can we just for a minute, just stop sucking? We just agree

Meghan:
For the next 50 years, can we not?

Ian:
I would suck. It would really help me out. Thank you. And

Meghan:
Just be really nice. It's the last chunk of my life.

Ian:
Yep. Looks like a runaway white boy

Meghan:
Screaming, and then he screams at the camera and runs away again

Ian:
At end of that. That's the only way I feel like that bit has been used by other people later. The idea of even though everything's been resolved and it's done, you have to scream.

Meghan:
Yeah. I just, that's your exit.

Ian:
Right? Right.

Meghan:
That's how you get out of the scene is

Ian:
The only way, only that you can get in or out. Yeah. It's what a strange young man.

Meghan:
What a strange young man.

Ian:
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and then the fricking mind, the big rocks. That's like the kazoos that they've got. Theos. I mean, I think everyone has to do,

Meghan:
It's a little crunk doing his own theme

Ian:
Music. It's a little bit between K crs, theme music and Monty Python. A little bit of that kind of

Meghan:
All, a little bit of that

Ian:
Blended together with the

Meghan:
Coconuts.

Ian:
Yes. Yep. Exactly. Oh, so Megan can attest to this, the introduction to Made Marian where she's in the tub and the camera crashes through the window. I actually just kind of lost

Meghan:
It. We had to pause the

Ian:
Movied because

Meghan:
Ian was losing his mind

Ian:
Laughing. I was totally unprepared. It was to lose that badly, I don't know why, but it's not, the fourth wall breaks are not anything special for me. It can be funny and it's too good effect, but when they do something where the camera itself interacts frequently, those will get me in a way that I'm not expecting.

Meghan:
I think it's, you're usually behind the camera

Ian:
Probably.

Meghan:
And you would be

Ian:
Like,

Meghan:
That would be,

Ian:
And I think the other thing too is

Meghan:
A way to bring you

Ian:
Into it. Into the thing. Well, and I think too, you're used to, it's one of those things that reminds you of the medium, because the whole idea of film is the camera is in a weird spot

Janet:
And

Ian:
The camera cannot be, and everyone just has to ignore it. You have to ignore the fact that there is no way that that angle makes sense. And so the idea that they kind of address that where somebody bumps into it or it crashes through something, that is such a funny admission to the bizarre nature of filmmaking in

Meghan:
General. Yeah. This is weird. And we know it's weird, and we're going to point out that it's

Ian:
Weird. It's weird. And just show it. And the fact that they turned around and showed the lens crashing through was I think one of my, it just, it tickled me in a way that I was fully not expecting because as the camera was approaching the scene,

Meghan:
Also, it's like she's singing in a bathtub, presumably naked. She's singing about this, where's the love of my life? And then just off screen, you hear just the crash. And then you look and there's the camera, and she cuts back to her and she just kind shakes it off and keeps singing, keeps singing.

Ian:
It just doesn't even acknowledge that its this giant cinema lens that just crashed through her stained glass window. It was that. This is terrible. But that might've been my favorite part of the whole goddamn movie, because it's

Meghan:
A good part.

Ian:
I got real good with that scene.

Meghan:
Fun about that. That I shared with you while during the screening. That was actually a reference to a psycho from 1960.

Ian:
Yes.

Meghan:
Because in the beginning of that movie, there's the camera movement that seems to go through a closed window and melbrook spoofed that in high anxiety in 1977, and then did it again. Here.

Ian:
I feel like we should watch high anxiety. That would be fun to do a Hitchcock

Meghan:
Alfred Hitchcock spoof.

Ian:
Yeah, that'd be fun to see. Key to my heart. That's good. Now Everlast what is that brand mostly known for? Because I can't,

Meghan:
I feel like it's locks.

Ian:
Is that just what it was, just the lock company? I think so. I'm going to look this up now because I'm curious. Yeah, Google it.

Meghan:
Locks are like safes.

Ian:
Yeah, maybe.

Meghan:
Which,

Ian:
No, it's like gym equipment. No, seriously. It's, oh, like a boxing brand. So I don't really know why.

Mike:
Let me see why. I just don't understand. That

Meghan:
Hasn't always been, or maybe it has.

Mike:
Maybe it has. I'm just, I'm not

Meghan:
Sure. Or it's a joke about it takes a beating like a

Mike:
Vagina.

Ian:
Let me look and see why

Meghan:
This is. Okay.

Ian:
I need to do a little bit of understanding as to why.

Meghan:
And I like when movies do this, when they make you do a little bit of side research to figure out what's going on. But that's just my weird A DHD neurodivergent brain. I just like to know all the things.

Ian:
Yeah. Basically people don't know. Fans are doing swim sheets, but looking beyond the fact that the belt's made by Everlast, the bell functionality seems to be confusing, which is also true. That was actually a thought that I had that I didn't write down, which was,

Meghan:
What the fuck? Chest belts.

Ian:
Well, yes, but also how do you utilize those components are still required for your daily life, and there was no obvious way.

Meghan:
There's no way to

Ian:
Access them.

Meghan:
So the history of chastity belts a little bit. Mostly.

Ian:
I'm so glad that you can provide some additional info.

Meghan:
Like said, I like to side research. So usually chastity belts were to prevent, you would put it on before you went out in public to prevent sexual assault. They were more preventative measure. Or if someone had an asylum was masturbating too much, they they'd put it on and

Ian:
Take care of that problem.

Meghan:
So they weren't meant for prolonged wear.

Ian:
I

Meghan:
See. That makes sense. But they were a thing historically, again, just to,

Ian:
In this day and age, they might need to make a comeback to

Meghan:
Tamp down. Actually, there is, I want to say somewhere in Africa, a woman invented something that goes into the vagina. It has spikes inside of it. I feel like

Ian:
I've heard about this,

Meghan:
So that if a woman gets, or if a man rapes a woman, the spikes are pointed inward, so the only way to take it off is to go to the hospital or you lose your penis. And I think those need to be everywhere.

Ian:
I just can't believe that you let, I can't believe

Meghan:
They have to exist

Ian:
Either. In a world where a woman has to booby chop her own vulva is not a good

Meghan:
Thing. Yeah. Hey, men, stop raping women.

Ian:
Hot takes here at

Meghan:
The Hot Takes

Ian:
Film school. Slacker.

Meghan:
You are not entitled to pussy.

Ian:
Yeah, exactly.

Meghan:
Sorry, dad.

Ian:
Hey, Mike. I didn't know that you listened to this podcast, and I'm glad you are, but now I know.

Meghan:
We're glad you're here.

Ian:
We're glad you're here.

Meghan:
Anyway,

Ian:
Boogie boarding, so, oh God. Okay. So there was a lot of snort laughing

Janet:
In

Ian:
This film, which I thought was funny. It was clearly a bit, they made it like an ongoing bit because multiple keratin did it. Latrine was definitely serving Xanax energy from Gallivant. It was a very similar kind. At the later, it changed, but at the beginning, she was very like, I don't know. We're doing what? It was just very all over the place.

Meghan:
And I kind of, what I'm doing, I'm just eyes navigator. You came to me for advice. I'm just your cook. If you want advice, get a witch love. I love that. Even though she's stereotypically like the witch. Also, Tracy

Ian:
Ulman, Tracy Almond, just

Meghan:
So funny. Hilarious,

Ian:
So funny.

Meghan:
Just never stop, never stopping,

Ian:
Never Stop. Looks like a Seder at Vincent Price's house. I don't even know why it looks like that, but anyway. What?

Meghan:
Because it had eyeballs and Yeah. But why did Vincent Price's actor? Because Vincent Price was a horror film

Ian:
Actor. Oh, far him actor, I guess. Yeah. Fair enough.

Meghan:
Did you say for whom?

Ian:
For think you did. I'll have to listen to that back later.

Meghan:
That's funny

Ian:
For him. Yeah. Oh, she's got a cutout of the sheriff. This was a Roger Reese cutout in the middle. Yeah. So funny. Can I borrow it? Can I borrow it? Did you know he died in 2015? Roger Reese did.

Meghan:
I looked that up, and I thought he died in 20, I thought he died this year.

Ian:
Was it this year? Give me a

Meghan:
Second. Oh, no, that was blinking.

Ian:
That was blinking.

Meghan:
Let me see.

Ian:
Yeah, and I remember now because I was like, where is he from? And then he was from, I remember him from the Pink

Meghan:
Panther. Oh, yeah, 2015.

Ian:
Yeah. He had brain cancer or something

Meghan:
Kind

Ian:
Of gross.

Meghan:
Yeah, I know him from West Wing.

Ian:
Oh, right, right. He

Meghan:
Was Lord John Marbury, who always called Leo. Gerald.

Ian:
Gerald. He just always plays that character. He's just

Meghan:
That. He's just a little over the top.

Ian:
Right. And

Meghan:
I love that a little. Very British.

Ian:
Very British. Yes. Yes. Amazing. Let's see. Oh, so the Tiny Creek Toll

Meghan:
Thing

Ian:
Is once again, one of those peripheral elements in Gallivant where they have the Giants and the Dwarves, and they're all the same height, and they're mad because of the bridge crossing over a gully that they can walk over. Anyway, it's

Meghan:
Like

Ian:
The same kind of nonsensical situ. They have that same kind of lineup going on, which again, it's one of those things where I'm like, one of my problems with this podcast is you're always going to hear me referring to newer stuff, because that's the stuff that I've already seen. That's the stuff that you know seen. So I'm like, obviously it's the other way around, and they probably were influenced by this, but this is what I remember. Let's see. Oh, called out Kevin Costner very hard. Oh, yeah. Which is why I need to see Prince of Thieves. I feel like that's

Meghan:
So in different dubs of the movie, obviously the German and the French don't have English accents, so they changed the line to, I think one of them was, but unlike some other Robin Hoods, I don't dance with wolves

Ian:
Or Oh, so they just go straight out.

Meghan:
They just go straight for the jugular.

Ian:
They find other Kevin Costner references to just call him out

Meghan:
Specifically. And there was another one that was like, I don't cost the studio 5 million or something like that.

Ian:
Oh my God.

Meghan:
There you go.

Ian:
Wow. They really,

Meghan:
They just

Ian:
Didn't hold back on that one. Yeah. Oh, I love that. It's mostly, these are just bits that I was tickled by hitting the chandelier thing, and it hits down the chandelier on him instead of them. It's

Meghan:
Worked the wrong one.

Ian:
Yep, yep. Always. You just never know. There's so many of those little ropes all tied up separately. Let's see. Oh, that was around the time I discovered that the Mole was moving.

Janet:
Yeah.

Ian:
I was just going, wait, is this all a different spot? Different spot. Within a few minutes. They had already called it out. By the time I started to notice the problem, Mel Brooks couldn't be like, we'll just leave that and let you learn that. No, no. We have to talk about it. Yep. I'm like, okay. All right. Here we go.

Meghan:
It's very, wasn't your hump on the other side,

Ian:
Right? What hump? What Hump. Okay. I need to see that movie.

Meghan:
It's very, it's been so

Ian:
Long, Igor.

Mike:
It's

Meghan:
Pronounced

Ian:
Igor.

Meghan:
God, that's such a good movie.

Ian:
That's such a good movie.

Meghan:
They do the walk this way in

Ian:
This morning. They do in

Meghan:
This one too. They, it's very self-referential, which when you're Mel Brooks, how do you

Ian:
Not Right. Blinking? No, I think that's when he was whacking at the,

Meghan:
Oh, yeah. The ladder.

Ian:
The fucking exit sign. Someone had to put the effort in to put that exit, unless they shot in a retail space, which I don't think they did. They literally went and found an exit sign and had to put and put it up there

Meghan:
And lit it in

Ian:
The set,

Meghan:
In the shot. It's so much

Ian:
Work, and it's such a dump gag. That is actually a good one where they didn't acknowledge it really. There wasn't any line that talked about it directly. And so there a couple of those where it breaks the

Meghan:
A visual gag.

Ian:
Yeah. Anytime that the visual gag breaks the world narrative, they typically don't talk about it. The characters do sort of ignore those. The camera coming in, she looks at, doesn't say anything. Or when the guy, when he stabs skewers bagel. Yeah. Stuff like that. The snack. Yeah. Oh yeah. Broda just cock blocking the whole time. Or even kiss blocking. She blocked an air kiss.

Meghan:
She did.

Ian:
And Broda,

Meghan:
My dude, she is very concerned with made Marian's

Ian:
Virginity.

Meghan:
Virginity and sex life, or lack thereof. Goodness

Ian:
Sakes. I think she's

Mike:
Projecting.

Meghan:
Well, I think because she says at the end, you must go, before you do it, you must go through it, or else I blew

Ian:
It. Right. So

Meghan:
I think A

Ian:
Made a promise to somebody.

Meghan:
Yeah. She was sort of installed as the

Ian:
Protector,

Meghan:
Protector of made Marian's virginity, because that was super important back in the day.

Ian:
Right.

Meghan:
Even sometimes today. That's gross. And virginity is a concept. Sorry. I will not get off my feminist high horse. I'm sorry. It's not going to happen.

Ian:
No. Nor would I ask you to. Thank

Meghan:
You. This

Ian:
Is where we're friends, right? Lend me your ears. No, thank you. Thank you. Everyone

Meghan:
Pops in ear

Ian:
Off and throws it at him. At him. That is so gross.

Meghan:
I swear to God, I showed you that.

Ian:
Maybe you did.

Meghan:
I can't remember why. Or in what context. Maybe it

Ian:
Was a gif and you sent it as like, lend me, and maybe you sent as a gift. And then I was like, what the fuck is

Meghan:
That? What the fuck is this? And then I sent you the clip.

Ian:
Right.

Meghan:
Something like that. I

Ian:
Know that might be would've happened. I

Meghan:
Don't, I sent the clip to someone recently, and I guarantee it was, you

Ian:
Can get, can confirm. Oh, channel's, Malcolm X. It's all those moments where I'm like, it's all right. I guess

Meghan:
It's, we didn't land on Sherwood Forest. Sherwood Forest landed on us. We didn't land on Plymouth Rock. Plymouth Rock landed on us. Okay.

Ian:
Yep.

Meghan:
Moving on.

Ian:
Prepare for the training montage. It's always good. And again, that's another Galavan thing where they do the, we've got the part of the story where the rock music background thing, it's the same. Feels like they're kind of channeling the same kind of thing there where, oh, he comes back from doing the thing and he feeds them cocktail fruit, whatever. He's like, good boy.

Meghan:
Just gives him a little treat. It's

Ian:
An actual him. ATU has his snapback because he can't wear the

Meghan:
Baseball

Ian:
Backwards, backwards.

Meghan:
Robin Hood hat

Ian:
Baseball with

Meghan:
The snapback.

Ian:
They clearly had to build it differently just so they could do it. Totally. The geometry is entirely different. Oh, and I said this already, but every time I start noticing an ongoing bit visual gag, it gets called out. It gets called out every

Meghan:
Time. Every time. Every time. Damn time.

Ian:
Stairs into the camera. I was that close. I touched it. I touched, oh my God.

Meghan:
I love that. That whole scene was just improvised by Tracy Ulman and Roger Ree.

Ian:
It was just crashes in, it is funny though. I

Meghan:
Have a headache.

Ian:
A

Meghan:
Headache was this

Ian:
Close.

Meghan:
I touched

Ian:
It. Jesus. And the fact that even that, she just looked into the camera and said that, I'm like, I wish I had that level of just unhinged ness in my life.

Meghan:
And that's just like, I don't know. That just kind of puts you on her side a little bit.

Ian:
Well, because also the sheriff of Rockingham fucking sucks. He's, he's

Meghan:
Kind of gross.

Ian:
He's the worst.

Meghan:
He's the worst.

Ian:
And I don't know, he serves kind of jaffar energy and

Meghan:
Yeah. An incompetent Jafar.

Ian:
Right. Fair. Fair.

Meghan:
Jafar was

Ian:
Actually pretty competent.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
He had a brand vision and he

Meghan:
Had a whole ass plan

Ian:
Trying to execute his plan. Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. Oh, oh, L and bag. Miguel

Meghan:
Loxley and Bag

Ian:
Loxley and Miguel. That was just, I was waiting for the bit. You could tell the last names were specific in a weird way,

Janet:
And

Ian:
I'm like, you guys did this to set up an entire,

Janet:
There

Ian:
Was one liner joke and you had set up these last names just to do the bit. And I have respect

Meghan:
For that. I think Beel was the only one that was actually set up. I think it actually is Robin of Loxley. Is it Robin of Loxley? Yeah.

Mike:
Oh.

Meghan:
But then it obviously had to

Mike:
Be

Meghan:
His partner had to be Beg l Bagels

Ian:
And Locks. Did Hero Rock Outlawed, an English

Meghan:
Folklore. Yeah. He was like a folk hero. Maybe a composite of a couple real people. He was

Ian:
Aran Swordsman. Some stories. He was depicted of Noble Birth and some said he having fought in the crusade to find his land taken by the sheriff, traditionally depicted, dressed in Lincoln Green, known

Meghan:
Lincoln Green

Ian:
Lincoln. I'm looking

Meghan:
This up. Lincoln Green.

Ian:
Lincoln. Lincoln Green is the color of dyed woolen cloth, formerly originating in Lincoln, England. A major cloth town in the high Middle Ages.

Meghan:
Did you say Abe Lincoln?

Ian:
Abe Lincoln.

Meghan:
Why would I say Abe Lincoln? No, I said, Hey,

Ian:
Lincoln. Lincoln, the Dyers of Lincoln known for their coloring wool with woe to give it a strong blue shade, created the eponymous. Eponymous. Did I say that right? Yeah. Yeah. Lincoln Green by over ding. This blue wall with yellow weld are Dyers broom. So there's a very specific,

Meghan:
It's probably like a darkish.

Ian:
Yeah. Robin Hood and his merryman of Sherwood Forest.

Meghan:
Oh, Mary.

Ian:
Merry the number of people that have portrayed.

Meghan:
Good Lord Rob Robinhood. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot. I mean, it's pretty ubiquitous story. Yeah.

Ian:
I think everyone knows the idea of Robinhood and has seen at least one version of it.

Meghan:
Oh, yeah.

Ian:
Yeah. Pretty wild. The Godfather bit, where he actually pulls out the cotton balls.

Meghan:
It's Don Giovanni.

Ian:
Don Giovanni. And N's like, I can't hear what you're saying. Don

Meghan:
Gio

Ian:
Just pulls out the fucking, oh,

Meghan:
Sorry. Came from the dentist. I forgot to take out the cotton balls

Ian:
All the way from Jersey. From Jersey. So

Meghan:
Ridiculous. Which is funny. There is a jersey in

Ian:
England. Yeah. They did the research. It's just so stupid, and I love it. And is the

Meghan:
Fact that I'll take these cotton bowls from you with my hand, my hands, and I will put them in my pocket,

Ian:
And frankly, I feel like it's very Fredo.

Meghan:
Fredo. Is that the right? I don't know. I have only ever seen the first

Ian:
Godfather. Well, no, I've seen the second one too, but I dunno. It's one of those movies where I'm like, this is well done. I don't really care.

Meghan:
Yeah, same.

Ian:
And it's long. I, and I

Meghan:
Also don't really care about mom, which is funny. I like The Sopranos. But again, that was more because of the acting.

Ian:
Acting and story stuff and not

Meghan:
The, no, not even so much the story stuff. It was just the acting is fucking hypnotic. You watched and the characters,

Ian:
Yeah.

Meghan:
I don't really care what happens to that, but

Ian:
The character writing and portrayal is good. Did you ever watch

Meghan:
McMillian? Yeah.

Ian:
Oh, that so

Meghan:
Good. Oh, that's such a good documentary.

Ian:
Oh my God. Every single person in that documentary feels like a character that was written gold, lame suit. Oh my God. I just, that guy, that guy. He was something, and I enjoyed the whole thing.

Meghan:
Freaking love it.

Ian:
He and the McDonald's lady

Meghan:
Fucked. Yeah. Oh, they totally,

Ian:
They had to have fucked.

Meghan:
There were some private messages, and then I guarantee they reconnected during McMillion. They just, hundred

Ian:
Percent. Because you know, he's divorced. There's no way he's married to anybody.

Meghan:
Oh, he He's totally

Ian:
Divorced. Yeah. He looks like he'd be impossible to be married to.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
Oh my God. Anyway, sorry.

Meghan:
They ruined

Ian:
Million episode.

Meghan:
They ruined a business class hotel room in hundred in Florida

Ian:
Somewhere. Oh, yeah. They had to just burn to the ground.

Meghan:
They just no longer use that room. The Holiday Inn Express by the airport

Ian:
Room, room, whatever it is, by

Meghan:
Room two 17.

Ian:
Yeah. Thank you.

Meghan:
This the Shining.

Ian:
The Shining. Yeah. Thank you for understanding exactly where my brain was going. Oh man. Oh man. Oh, the clapper. The candles and the candles come up. Jesus. So dumb. And also probably took some effort. Oh, yeah. How did they just do that?

Meghan:
I bet they were gas candles that they just

Ian:
Oh, it just stuck underneath. Yeah.

Meghan:
But that's a lot of work. Yeah, it's

Ian:
A fair amount of work. I enjoyed that. Oh, and then we finally got to were men. Men and

Meghan:
Tights. Men and tights. Tights.

Ian:
It's tight tights. It felt like the 1994 version of sitting Five Feet Apart because they're not gay. That was the energy I got from that entire song, which was obviously on purpose, kind of. Yeah. Yeah. It was just funny. And again, it's one of those bits where, because it's Mel Brooks, he's not going to leave it alone.

Meghan:
No.

Ian:
He's going to turn the camera back literally

Meghan:
On it. Double down.

Ian:
Yeah, exactly. It's not going to be like, just like they're kind of sensitive about it and underplay the joke. It's going to be an entire fucking musical number and beat it to death. Which is funny.

Meghan:
Which, I mean, when Rabbi Tuckman is introduced, he's like, you guys, you gay? It's

Ian:
No, no, we're just married. We're straight sitting five feet apart.

Meghan:
Yeah. Sitting five feet apart because we're not

Ian:
Gay's. So funny. And at this point, I was like, the broom ilda fat jokes were getting really old.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
That was my start to kind was

Meghan:
Really done with that. Yeah.

Ian:
And again, it's some of those things where you could have just done a bit and then been over with it, but it just kept getting doubled down on, and that one got kind of exhausting

Meghan:
At the end of the movie. It's kind of implied that little John is a little bit sweet on her. Why would he be

Ian:
Secretly sweet?

Meghan:
Well, or why would he be like, you can get off me so heavy unless I'm misreading the ending.

Ian:
No, I don't think you're misreading the ending. I just think that you can get off Me. Thing was,

Meghan:
I kind of wonder if that scene had played different, if he had leaned into it and was like, is there anything I can do for you? And then he was like, yeah, you can come here and,

Ian:
And

Meghan:
Then Robin has to be like,

Ian:
Dude,

Meghan:
Come on.

Ian:
No, it was a bit where they had kind of a spark, but he had to make a fat joke because

Meghan:
That

Ian:
Was the bit, that was what it felt like to me. That was what it felt like they did. It was,

Meghan:
Yeah. If I had to rewrite that

Ian:
Scene scene, I would totally,

Meghan:
Little John would fucking, they would be just making out. Right.

Ian:
There would be for a

Meghan:
Solid

Ian:
Minute there. Some absurd tension. Yeah. It definitely felt like it was a mean spirited joke, and then they kind of, at the end implied that it was, he had,

Meghan:
That's,

Ian:
He was kind of into it actually. Yeah. I don't know. Again, it was just playing the fat joke for the fat joke, and I was sick of it. I was frankly sick of it. I tell you, oh, all these musical numbers are so unhinged. I was not, because then they had their little romantic singing and

Meghan:
The Robert Golet ballad

Ian:
Thing. Oh my God.

Meghan:
Even though it wasn't Robert Golet, but it

Ian:
Was, I do think that one, that

Meghan:
Baritone,

Ian:
The baritone, the thing that got me, that I thought was my favorite part of all that is you and I have both acted and have you had to do a song where you sang at somebody? Have you had to do that before?

Meghan:
No, I was never a lead. I'm not bitter about it at all.

Ian:
Oh God. Okay.

Meghan:
Actually, I'm not. I,

Ian:
No, it's

Meghan:
Honestly kind of overrated. I can understand where,

Ian:
So I remember it was in Honk Mars Star, and I

Meghan:
Had,

Ian:
Because Mars was playing, my

Meghan:
Mother, Mars was Your Mama,

Ian:
And we had to do at least one song where we sang at each other, and it is weird. It is not a normal be normal thing to do. It feels like a lot of things in acting is like you're putting on an affectation or you're doing something,

Meghan:
But then you're just staring at somebody be

Ian:
Right. Cheating out, and other things are weird and staged, but that is so wrong, and I already hate making eye contact anyway. Same. It was just a weird thing, but the idea in this scene where he's singing at her and

Meghan:
Her hair is blowing bad because that's what she's just like, I'm so sorry to basically be screaming into your face. Screaming into your face

Ian:
With

Meghan:
My face.

Ian:
Yeah. It definitely played into some good, I can see why festive, like this movie, I can see why theater nerds like this movie. It plays into a lot of things where you're like, this is true. There's not wrong, because that whole world of theater and whatever, it's more, the absurdity of performing arts in general is funny to me because a good example I have is 30 Rock. It's an absurdist comedy show, but it's not as far off as you think it is. Yeah. It plays absurd. Pretty accurate, but it's not wrong. Oh, I was like, yeah, these musical numbers are insane, but they are apparently diegetic. They clearly take place in the story. Yeah.

Meghan:
She's just like,

Ian:
Where's that? Where's that coming from? Some of the merry men just sitting up singing along the background, very weird. And then they're doing the whole thing and they close, pull the curtain down. The whole band of Merry men are just watching. Yeah. It was cute. Terrific, terrific, terrific. When they get the me men in drag for the archery scene and

Meghan:
Blink Blinken, fix your Boobs. You're like a Picasso.

Ian:
Like a bloody Picasso. No, a Bleed. Picasso. A

Meghan:
Picasso.

Ian:
So good. It's like installed the one side.

Meghan:
You just got to shove them over.

Ian:
The other thing I thought was funny about this movie just in general was there was a lot of references to current pop culture, but current pop culture was 1994, so we're talking, the references are weird. They didn't age in time, so there's these references where I'm like, this is a reference to something that was popular 30 years ago.

Meghan:
It's

Ian:
Very weird to,

Meghan:
Did you notice, I don't, I think you missed it, but in the beginning when Chu is getting beaten up by all the guards, there's a throwaway line that's like, man, I hope somebody's getting a video of this.

Ian:
I did hear it, but

Meghan:
Rodney King. Oh fuck. It was a direct reference to Rodney King.

Ian:
No, so I find it very interesting because I think that that was the other part of this that comes off very interestingly now because of a lot of the race-based comedy was, it came from a good place, but it was definitely like a, Ooh, it's like making a nine 11 joke kind of humor. It was just like, oh God. Well, it's alright. It was 30 years ago. It was 30 years ago. It's fine. Yeah. Oh, speaking of which, the Royal Folio repository, a depository, and just so I'm understanding, that was a reference to the Texas School book Depository, right?

Meghan:
Yes.

Ian:
Great.

Meghan:
That great. He was definitely, definitely,

Ian:
He was definitely Lee Harvey. Lee Harvey Oswald. The different made a grassy Knoll reference. Oh, that's too bad.

Meghan:
Oh, that would've been funny though.

Ian:
Did you watch that? Sorry. Not to go on a totally conspiratorial side tangent. I mean, actually I'm not mad about that at all, but

Meghan:
I've already gone on my feminist rant. It's time

Ian:
For a conspiracy time, time for conspiracy. If I can tie it back to feminism, we'll see what we can do. No,

Meghan:
Not JFK,

Ian:
Not J. Yeah. Well, there's something there. Anyway, I'm a sharky Wikipedia game through it. Did you hear the, I'm sure you have the theory that it was Secret service.

Meghan:
Dude, I'm the one who told you about that.

Ian:
No, because I watched it with Allie. We watched a documentary about it. Really? We talked about it separately. There was a

Meghan:
Documentary about it.

Ian:
Yeah. I'll have to find it. We watched it.

Meghan:
Well, last podcast on the left proposed, I mean, they weren't the originator, of course, of the theory, but

Ian:
They did a whole

Meghan:
Six whole episodes on Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK, and in the last episode was about, that theory was about the Secret Service theory. Secret service

Ian:
Theory, and it tracks, it's not, frankly,

Meghan:
It's almost Occam's razor.

Ian:
It is

Meghan:
Very Occam's rosary.

Ian:
Yeah.

Meghan:
Very. That explains the whole coverup, because they didn't want Russia to be like, ha, that was German.

Ian:
That's funny. Sad. No, I took that sound.

Meghan:
That's very German, but yeah, they didn't want to

Ian:
Put on the right.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
No, because I feel like if in those situations where in most scenarios you would want to to see take to justice, to do the whole, it felt very rushed and confused, and that makes total sense to me, and geometry wise, the physics of the entire event would make more sense from the car, and you have a young guy who's not ready. It was an

Meghan:
Accident, and we're not saying that Lee Harvey Oswell did. He didn't shoot because he did

Ian:
Did, yeah, but

Meghan:
The young guy in the back who was brand new with this brand new

Ian:
Gun, gun friendly fire moment, it makes total sense because it's not about, it doesn't change the ultimate intention because it was still Lee Harvey Oswald who initiated the event.

Meghan:
He started everything. If he hadn't been

Ian:
There, he was the one that shot the governor. Right?

Meghan:
I

Janet:
Think

Ian:
So. That was because the magic bullet wouldn't have made any, it was like that was the problem was with the magic bullet. You couldn't do what it did without being really weird.

Meghan:
I don't know. I got to watch this documentary.

Ian:
Yeah, I'll talk to Allie about it.

Meghan:
Totally. I just want some confirmation on this.

Ian:
Yeah.

Meghan:
I spent 30 seconds in Daley Plaza when I was in

Ian:
Dallas. That's right.

Meghan:
You're in Dallas. That's right. A year and a half ago or a year ago.

Mike:
That's

Ian:
So cool.

Meghan:
I

Ian:
Know. It's sad.

Meghan:
That's so cool. It's very quick to drive through, so I don't know. I'd have to go back and actually do the tour, because when I was there, it was way too hot to walk anywhere, and I was kind of on the outskirts of downtown, and it

Ian:
Was

Meghan:
Not my favorite trip.

Ian:
Right. Yeah. For all sorts of other reasons.

Meghan:
Yes, for very different reasons. Ask Ellen Marsh.

Ian:
Wow. Or

Meghan:
Joey, Toronto.

Ian:
Ellen

Meghan:
And Joey come on our podcast.

Ian:
Oh my God. Wouldn't that be something Oh, oh, good. They opened up the salad bar. There's some good lines

Meghan:
When they're throwing the cabbage,

Ian:
Right? Yeah. Just directly at them, and then everyone checks their scripts.

Meghan:
The Mel Brooks checking their scripts.

Ian:
Is that a pretty common thing for him to do in other, did they do it in Space balls? I don't remember now.

Meghan:
No. They checked the tape in Space Balls.

Ian:
Check the tape. That's what it was,

Meghan:
But that self-referential check

Ian:
Into the story, the meta narrative. They kind of break the meta narrative and do

Meghan:
The, that's about Brooks Trait.

Ian:
Trait. Okay. Okay. The Patriot area was very, the Patriot arrow was very grim.

Janet:
Yeah.

Ian:
It's a grim bit. Walk this way. Saners

Janet:
Vaguely

Ian:
Walk

Janet:
This way. Way.

Ian:
That's funny. They all do the same

Meghan:
Way. Yeah, same one. They do the hair flip and then hair flip, and then the hippie,

Ian:
The hip,

Meghan:
Hip hip.

Ian:
The Roger Reese special 12th, century

Meghan:
Century Fox. Fox. Now, Mickey take this to the

Ian:
Villages, and then it did the dolphin screech as it ran away. It's just classic. Oh, and then they do the wedding and he knocks the camera again, goes, oh, sorry, and I'm just a sucker for camera bits. I guess if the camera gets interacting with the story. There was some other movie that I can't remember now where it goes in and bonks somebody on the head and I can't think of what it's now.

Meghan:
It's probably another Mel Brooks movie.

Ian:
Well, I'm sure it was a Mel Brooks movie, but there was

Meghan:
Something

Ian:
Probably Baseballs or something. Something else. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It was less, they didn't talk about it. They didn't acknowledge it, but it was like it kind bumped into something or did something stupid. I, I'll have to think about it. Oh, the real MVP of this entire movie is The Executioner.

Meghan:
Oh, yeah.

Ian:
A hundred percent. He was just so into it.

Meghan:
He's so into it. Are you 16? 16 and a half and a half. No news is

Ian:
Good

Meghan:
News.

Ian:
Someone had so much, he

Meghan:
Enjoys his job so much.

Ian:
He appreciates his craft, and God, we all just aspire to that. He

Meghan:
Loves his job, man. They say, if you love what you do, you never work a day in your

Ian:
Life, day in your life. Life. That guy, he's into it. I just want to know why he had an eye patch. There were some choices with the character, and he had the little tiny noose hanging from his hat. There's just some questions I have about his life story.

Meghan:
The direct, the sequel of,

Ian:
Right. Oh my God, the

Meghan:
Executioner.

Ian:
Hey, we're in that part, this era now for movies where they just keep remaking shit. Origin stories. It's the origin story. No one wanted Melbrook

Meghan:
Brook's origins.

Ian:
Brook's Origins,

Meghan:
The executer

Ian:
Executer. Jesus. It's coming in

Meghan:
2027. It's the X-Men origins.

Ian:
Yes. Well, Patrick Stewart's already there, so

Meghan:
He wasn't in Origins. You know what I mean? I know. I was trying to, I

Ian:
Get, and also, I've never seen an X-Men movie, so I am flying blind

Meghan:
Here. We got to get you into

Ian:
It. Know. We'll have to do a couple of those.

Meghan:
I'll cherry pick those because

Mike:
I

Ian:
Know they're not all equal.

Meghan:
They're not all great.

Ian:
Yeah, yeah. Oh, thank you. Because,

Meghan:
But the

Ian:
Jackhammer Jackhammer, I don't know

Meghan:
The whole thing. Did you think that was a reference to how he would've made love to? Yes.

Ian:
Everything that had to do with her chastity belt was 100%.

Meghan:
Yeah,

Ian:
Yeah. Like coded

Meghan:
Sexual.

Ian:
It was sexual, sexually

Meghan:
Coded. It was

Ian:
Basically like the equivalent of a Bugs Bunny cartoon about sex was basically because they could get away with it because of the mechanics of the thing, which I feel like in 1994 would've been kind of risque.

Meghan:
Yeah. Maybe.

Ian:
I don't know.

Meghan:
I was a year and a half old,

Ian:
Almost two. I was maybe a

Meghan:
Year. Yeah.

Ian:
Was it 94?

Meghan:
Yeah. Or 93.

Ian:
93. Oh, I would

Meghan:
Mention you were,

Ian:
I was very newly born. Born. I was, depends on when In 93, but

Meghan:
That's true.

Ian:
Yeah. I was a fetus. Oh, also love. Oh, I also was a big fan of the random, the guy at craft services and got his snacks, got his bagel down stolen. That was great. That was a good time. He wasn't in costume. He was just, it was the, and then

Meghan:
You see the backstage set

Ian:
Behind him, the Right, right. It's just like,

Meghan:
Hey,

Ian:
A hundred percent. The couple of times the movie just fully breaks down the entire story. I also love the very literal way the sheriff gets this comeuppance. It's very literal. If you look at the reflection of what he was trying to do, the exact same. It's like, if you don't die, you're going to have to,

Meghan:
He tried to blackmail Marian into marrying him.

Ian:
Right, and then he gets blackmailed

Meghan:
Into, and then he gets blackmailed into marrying Latrine.

Ian:
Latrine. I dunno. She seems fun.

Meghan:
She seems fun.

Ian:
She's a good

Meghan:
Tree. Who knows? You could have a lot of fun

Ian:
With Tracy Ulman.

Meghan:
Yeah. Marriage is built on laughter.

Ian:
Exactly. They're fine. Be great. It's

Meghan:
Great.

Ian:
Just don't do anything with her cooking. It looks terrifying.

Meghan:
Yeah. No, she's not a great cook.

Ian:
No. I don't know why she was hired as a

Meghan:
Cook. I was going to say she should probably be fired as cook. Yeah.

Ian:
She something different. Yeah. I don't know if he could,

Meghan:
Did you notice that the pill to save his life

Ian:
Was a lifesaver?

Meghan:
Was a lifesaver?

Ian:
Yeah. It's

Meghan:
Fucking,

Ian:
It's just fucking brilliant. The stupidest. I

Meghan:
Love it. It's so dumb. It's brilliant. I know. The failed so hard. You win.

Ian:
Task failed successfully.

Meghan:
Yes.

Ian:
It was very like, oh my God. Because you could have done something. You could have done a pill, but

Meghan:
It was just, or like a magic spell or something.

Ian:
Right. There was one more time to just do something stupid and make a bit out of it. It's so dense. These movies are so dense with stupid bits that you just will never be able to find them all. Never. It's so good. Patrick Stewart, I did not know he was in the movie,

Meghan:
Know

Ian:
At all.

Meghan:
I kept that from you. I will admit to be a bad friend.

Ian:
What?

Meghan:
Keeping that secret Lying

Ian:
By omission. You think that was worth it? It was fine. Yeah. It was good. It's

Meghan:
A good surprise.

Ian:
I was just like, because the helmet was on, I'm like, who the, wait,

Meghan:
Wait a second.

Ian:
He takes the helmet off. I'm like, it's Professor Rex, even though I've never seen any of these movies. Okay. Sorry. Picard, whatever. I don't care. Yeah, that was great. That was a good, that was a good bit. Enjoyed

Meghan:
It. He's a good king, Richard.

Ian:
Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, it was sort of like of everyone in the entire movie. He was sort of best way to describe this.

Meghan:
We want someone who can give the character some gravitas, but will also just has that comedic timing. Right,

Ian:
Right. He's able to do both.

Meghan:
He can do both.

Ian:
Yeah. Yeah. That was phenomenal.

Meghan:
God, that was

Ian:
So

Meghan:
Funny. A black sheriff. Why not? He worked in Blazing Saddles.

Ian:
They just looked right in the camera.

Meghan:
Again, that's another Mel Brooks self-referential

Ian:
Moment. Yep, yep. The Mel Brook averse, the

Meghan:
Averse, Mel's averse.

Ian:
Mel's Brook averse. It's like View ku, but

Meghan:
It's

Ian:
Melbrook.

Meghan:
Millbrooks. Fuck you.

Ian:
Oh, man. Okay. Let us review. Oh, and I love that at the end of Mel Brooks movies, he does, it's such a eighties to nineties thing where you play a little bit of the movie next to everyone's name at the end, credits for the cast in the credits where they'll play a little bit of that person and put their, it's a very eighties and nineties thing, and it gives me nostalgia every time that, especially in a Mel Brooks movie, really, it's like they do that. It makes me feel like, oh, I'm home. Okay, so Robinhood Menden tights.

Meghan:
Yes. Production and design.

Mike:
Production and Design. Okay.

Meghan:
Is this our first Mel Brooks movie that we're doing on this?

Ian:
It is.

Meghan:
Yeah, it is.

Ian:
Yeah. Probably won't be the last either. By the sounds of it. No production design. These movies are confoundingly difficult to rate

Meghan:
Because So you don't know if it's bad on purpose or if it's just an honest effort

Ian:
That was that they had no budget.

Meghan:
Yeah. I can't imagine Mel Brooks didn't have especially a decent budget, especially in the nineties

Ian:
After. Yeah. People loved him in the nineties.

Meghan:
I'm going to say it was probably meant to look a little hokey,

Ian:
A

Meghan:
Little Renaissance ferry,

Ian:
And to be fair, he's a master master of his craft in a way where everything was purpose.

Meghan:
When you think about space balls, there's no real crazy impressive sets there either,

Ian:
Right?

Meghan:
So you maybe like a three and a half, four.

Ian:
I think we can give it a four, and the reason I think we could give it a four is because I believe that he fully intended to make it purpose. He was working hard. Everything was intentional, so can't fault him for that. So I think a four is what I'm going to go with.

Meghan:
All right.

Ian:
That's

Meghan:
Fair.

Ian:
Why did it pull up 16 candles? That is absolutely not what we're talking about right now.

Meghan:
Very different

Ian:
Movie. Very different movie. Okay, so we'll say four story rating.

Meghan:
I mean, it's a pretty classic story of hood returns from the Crusades, finds his land stolen and goes to get it back. Vows, vengeance on

Ian:
That also happens in Galivan. The sheriff

Meghan:
Vows, vengeance on the sheriff and falls in love with Made Marian.

Ian:
Right. It's

Meghan:
In the end, it's, it's

Ian:
Not a new Robinhood story. It's not,

Meghan:
It's a Za Robinhood

Ian:
Story. Story. It's a Robinhood story and the dialogue is different.

Meghan:
Yes. They did not go old. The English with Right,

Ian:
But did,

Meghan:
I don't think Prince of Thieves really did. I don't know. I've never seen it.

Ian:
I've never seen it either. That's going to be a double blind.

Meghan:
Yeah,

Ian:
This is tough because the story is not

Meghan:
Right,

Ian:
But the writing is still, there was work done because

Meghan:
It four, four and a half.

Ian:
Let's give it a four. There we go. Performances

Meghan:
Five. Yeah, I think that's fair.

Ian:
Everyone,

Meghan:
Everyone

Ian:
Knew what they were doing.

Meghan:
Everyone knew exactly what they were doing. Again, just find one of the side characters in any scene and watch what they're doing, scene and just watch what they're doing and they are in it

Ian:
To win it. Cultural impact. I think this is easily a five.

Meghan:
I mean, sure.

Ian:
Do you think because, no,

Meghan:
I think it's kind of, again, for the people I'm friends with,

Ian:
It's

Meghan:
A five general, culturally, not maybe so much, because this was kind of towards the end of Mel Brooks's

Ian:
Big run.

Meghan:
Big. Yeah, big run of popular movies, and then Dracula Dead and Loving It, I think came after this and nobody liked that one for some reason. I don't know. I've never seen that one either. But again, I think that was just people being tired of the Mel Brooks formula

Ian:
Because

Meghan:
They've had it so much for so long.

Ian:
I think that that's what Titi is going through now.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
It's such a specific vibe that you can't just keep making those forever

Meghan:
Enjoy your popularity. It's not going to last forever. Last

Ian:
Forever. When you do something that specific, same with Liel, Miranda,

Meghan:
Same

Ian:
Deal, very specific vibe, and at some people are bit like, okay, all

Meghan:
We're done with Keep moving.

Ian:
Keep moving. Yeah. Okay. I hear what you're saying. Those that people refer to a lot in my mind, but it's also kind of specific to the people I hang out with. So

Meghan:
I mean, I am still cool with a five,

Ian:
I'm thinking, but based on,

Meghan:
Especially with our friend Circle,

Ian:
I think four and a half is probably because if we're going based on the greater cultural impact of the world, which is kind of what this one is, I think a four and a half, because we can influence it based on the fact that we know that.

Meghan:
And also, could we make this today? Not in the same way, not in the same way, but we also could do theoretically. I mean, spoofs have been around forever,

Ian:
Right?

Meghan:
Farce

Ian:
Is always been far

Meghan:
Is always a thing.

Mike:
Yeah,

Meghan:
Yeah,

Mike:
Yeah. No, a hundred percent.

Ian:
Okay, so this takes us to four. Four.

Meghan:
It's higher than I was expecting.

Ian:
Me too. That puts us, wow. Between the Da Vinci Code and Pretty and Pink. So the pretty and Pink is hold on, 4.4, so it's tied with Pretty and pink.

Meghan:
Gotcha.

Ian:
And then Da Vinci Code is 4.2.

Meghan:
Huh. Interesting.

Ian:
That is interesting, huh?

Meghan:
All right. Well, tell us what you think, guys.

Ian:
I guess, yeah, I would love to please engage with us on your thoughts. Frankly, this is one of those, especially when it comes to our cultural impact ratings, we're kind of just putting our thumbs in the air and kind of guessing at how we perceive that people do it, or people feel about it. Because I think that was,

Meghan:
People like Mel Brooks movies,

Ian:
They do, even though have kind of

Meghan:
Almost universal appeal

Ian:
Appeal, people don't, just because the formula quit becoming so popular doesn't mean that the movies themselves don't have a lasting impact on public conscience. And I think that Robinhood Menden Tights is one of the big ones between Space Balls and Robin had Men and Tights. I think those are kind of two of his blazing

Meghan:
Saddles. Yeah.

Ian:
I think those all have,

Meghan:
Those are kind of his big three genre spoofing movies. High is also a different one. It's

Ian:
In that same hitch hop One One. Yeah. But I think that those are the ones that if you go into public conscience, people know about those movies. And so it's kind of like there is a big cultural impact in terms of farces. When people think of a farce film. Mel Brooks kind of had the market cornered for a very long time. No one was really doing it in that way. In the popular

Meghan:
Arena. Well, blazing Saddles actually ended the American Cowboy movie Western.

Ian:
Yeah. Because the stages of a development of a genre and farce is sort of the end.

Meghan:
Yeah. Farces is usually towards the end,

Ian:
Because

Meghan:
I read a thing on, I think it was Tumblr or Reddit or something that was like, imagine someone making a spoof, police procedural, or a police movie, police procedural movie that completely spoofs that entire genre.

Ian:
Brooklyn Nine Nine.

Meghan:
It doesn't really spoof it though. It's a funnier version, but it's not actively making fun of cops and all that the way,

Ian:
Not the way that Mel Brooks, the

Meghan:
Way the launch deconstruction

Ian:
Works.

Meghan:
Yeah. It's not the deconstruction of

Ian:
The

Meghan:
Genre.

Ian:
Right. Okay. It's

Meghan:
A very good show. I love

Ian:
It. It's a good show.

Meghan:
But if there was something did that, and then just like nobody made Police procedurals anymore, that's what Blazing Saddles did.

Ian:
That's so wild.

Meghan:
Yeah.

Ian:
That one needs to probably go on the list in the first quarter of 25, because that one I would like to see and see what it did. That kind of, how it defined the genre, how it, because Space Balls didn't end.

Meghan:
No. God no.

Ian:
Didn't even end Star Wars.

Meghan:
No.

Ian:
Far from it. Far

Meghan:
From it.

Ian:
Do you know who were the main people in Blazing Saddles?

Meghan:
Gene Wilder. Oh fuck. What's his name? I can't remember. It's Gene Wilder, I believe. Madeline Kahn.

Mike:
Okay.

Meghan:
Give me a sec.

Mike:
Yeah,

Meghan:
Clavon Little. That's his name. Slim Pickens. Slim Pickens. Harvey Corman. Okay. Madeline Kahn, Mel Brooks, Burton Gilliam. Yeah. So a lot of, yeah.

Mike:
Okay.

Meghan:
So

Ian:
Nice.

Meghan:
That'll be a fun one, especially given the cultural impact of that one, but we'll get there.

Ian:
Yeah. Spoilers. Alright, well, awesome. Thank you so much for tuning in. My name is Ian.

Meghan:
I'm Megan

Ian:
Film School Slacker. We will see you next time.

Meghan:
See you.

Mike:
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